Reply #30 By: BakerStreet - 1/29/2005 7:08:32 PM

than his integrity as a leader.

come on now!!!! integrity and.. Ted Kennedy in same paragraph? surely you jest?

"Ted Kennedy calls out Bush on Iraq"

Reply #26 By: JTurnas - 1/29/2005 6:16:44 PM Bottom line, this administration was in a rush to go to war, Bush wanted to "Prove" something to his father. We were misled with the pretext for that war, and then expected to follow along to the end despite the fact that the entire basis of it was fabricated. Worse, their doctrine for the war was flawed, but once the hawks start beating the drums of war, its pretty hard to stop them. It was clear they were more worried about finding reasons to go to war, than they were for reasons to NOT go to war. Thats a flawed logic, and the very failure of this war demonstrates how flawed that logic was. Now we are losing 5-35 good young men per day and for what? So iraqi's can vote in a contrived election staged by their occupiers? Sorry, but thats not enough to get my patriotic ideals excited. I feel truely sorry for anyone that is excited about this whole matter, they have a detachment with reality that is quite alarming. Whats even more startling is how Americans were so keen to buy into all of it, then accept that the reasoning was flawed, then willing to actually continue along with a flawed doctrine! Its astounding! When a system or plan is flawed, and you continue to attempt to rectify it and fail, then its time to extract yourself from the situation. America has lost almost all credibility already, so a withdrawl wouldn't mean much of anything to anyone, and would just save some innocent lives. Before anyone tries to tell me how the military machine works, think again, I have 4 years of experiance leading men in the military, including the first gulf war. Before you label me a bleeding heart liberal, think again, i'm a moderate republican. Hardline conservatives are dangerous people, and are quick to label anyone that doesn't agree with their ideals as "Foolish Liberals", but I caution you, Americans are starting to wise up, and the hardline rightwing movement is losing ground quite quickly.

Equals the left talking out of their second mouth. Have you anything itelligent to add? I thought not.

Do you have kids? How about we send them over, and then see how you feel. Tough talk is easy, when you or your kids aren't in the line of fire.

I do, and did.  Now you want to eat your own shit?  or just keep flinging it.

Bottom line, this administration was in a rush to go to war,

No Bottom line, we were attacked.  We did not declare the war, it was decalred on us.  But you and your ilk would sue for peace just to avoid any war, even if the enemy has stated no quarter.  You are a sad pathetic fool.  By the grace of brave men and women who you are not worthy to even grovel at their feet, you can afford that luxury.

Before anyone tries to tell me how the military machine works, think again, I have 4 years of experiance leading men in the military, including the first gulf war. Before you label me a bleeding heart liberal, think again, i'm a moderate republican. Hardline conservatives are dangerous people, and are quick to label anyone that doesn't agree with their ideals as "Foolish Liberals", but I caution you, Americans are starting to wise up, and the hardline rightwing movement is losing ground quite quickly.

No, you re just a liar.  Thanks for proving it.

Flaming is easy, and uninspiring. The lack of intelligent, point by point rebuttals to my factually accurate statements illustrates that I am correct, and that my logic is irrefutable. Simple gradeschool one liners telling me to eat shit do nothing but strengthen my position, and completely remove your credibility. I guess if I was in the position you are in, the next thing i'd do would be to extract myself from this conversation, and immediately head to the next blog to troll.

No Bottom line, we were attacked. We did not declare the war, it was decalred on us. But you and your ilk would sue for peace just to avoid any war, even if the enemy has stated no quarter

Iraq attacked us? Dang, wonder where I was when that happened? Is that the best comeback you can muster? What kind of doctor are you? Doctor Suess?

Iraq attacked us? Dang, wonder where I was when that happened? Is that the best comeback you can muster? What kind of doctor are you? Doctor Suess?

try again chicken little.  They attacked us almost daily for 12 years.  But I guess you dont consider soldiers of the US Armed forces to be anything but target practice.  You really are a small individual.

bye troll

Flaming is easy, and uninspiring. The lack of intelligent, point by point rebuttals to my factually accurate statements illustrates that I am correct, and that my logic is irrefutable. Simple gradeschool one liners telling me to eat shit do nothing but strengthen my position, and completely remove your credibility. I guess if I was in the position you are in, the next thing i'd do would be to extract myself from this conversation, and immediately head to the next blog to troll.

All praise the new god!  pay homage to he who is so wise as to just shame all rational and thoughtful debate!  bow down to his omniscience!  Praise Jrunass.

Reply By: EvorgPosted: Saturday, January 29, 2005"Ted Kennedy calls out Bush on Iraq"

now thats funny,,,, and yet profound...

Evorg -

JTurnas -

The lack of "point by point rebuttals" might mean a lack of "points." And your childish claim that Bush just wanted to "prove" something to his father clearly showed your closed mindset and bias - not much point in engaging you in debate. Don't bitch about getting what you asked for - nothing.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Dr. Guy

Iraq did not attack us. Yes they shot at out aircraft flying over IRAQ. The notion that the Iraq war is making us safer or is part of the "War on Terrorism" is pure BS. We have created more enemies by attacking Iraq than friends! We have created terrorism in Iraq. We have committed $300 Billion, 1,400 lives, 10,000 combat injuries, 15,000 non combat injuries with no end in sight. This war was a BIG mistake that BUSH made! These are the facts which are neither Republican or Democrat.

Reply By: colgene(Anonymous User)Posted: Sunday, January 30, 2005Dr. GuyIraq did not attack us. Yes they shot at out aircraft flying over IRAQ.

No officer, I did not attack that man , i just punched him in the eye cause he was on MY lawn... I wonder how that would fly in a court of law..

No officer, I did not attack that man , i just punched him in the eye cause he was on MY lawn... I wonder how that would fly in a court of law..

About as well as a pig!